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ben woodling 06-10-02 01:24 PM

juggling table?
 
hey,
i need to make a table to stand on and juggle/rola bola atop of. it needs to be transportable and light. im plannin on choppin a patio table up. but before i do so id like sum other ideas.
I know that a few people have the thing im afta(lookin in ur direction JIM), but im sure u paid lots for urs. i need sumit on the cheap.
thanks guys/and gurls

Jim 06-10-02 02:01 PM

The table is hand made by me. I spent about US$400 on all the materials. I went to a pipe supply shop and got pipe fittings for the underside and lengths of pipe for the legs. The fittings are "SpeedRail" fittings... aluminum fittings for making railings. The table top is wood. The hardest part is locating good strong fittings for the legs. Look up "Pipe Supply" in a local phone directory and go have a look. Tell them what you want to do and they'll help. Bring in a picture of my table and they'll know exactly what you want. I put it all together, sanded the edges and painted it in about three days.

Here's a web link to start you off...
http://www.hollaender.com/?page=flanges

They didn't have this stuff on the web when I built the table 8 years ago!

Good luck.
Jim

Here's a shot of my table:
http://www.thejimshow.com/fans/photos/images/oktcat.jpg

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Chance 06-10-02 03:30 PM

Forget the table, where did you get those SOCKS??!! [img]eek.gif[/img]

Jim 06-10-02 04:11 PM

It was Oktoberfest, and not only am I wearing knee socks, but also lederhosen.

Jim

http://www.thejimshow.com/fans/photo...s/okthosen.jpg

Scot Free 06-10-02 06:56 PM

Looks more like Robert Downey Jr. fresh from the Narconon Centre in Hamburg. (crica 1997)
http://www.thejimshow.com/fans/photo...s/okthosen.jpg[/QB][/quote]

Tom B 06-11-02 02:05 PM

Are you able to bounce silicones on your platform Jim? Would wood have enough stability for bouncing silicones?

Jim 06-11-02 07:25 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Tom B:
<strong>Are you able to bounce silicones on your platform Jim? Would wood have enough stability for bouncing silicones?</strong><hr></blockquote>

Yup.

Tabletop is 3/4inch plywood with an outer edge of 2x6's underneath. It's nice and firm for bounce juggling.

http://www.thejimshow.com/fans/photos/images/nofeet.jpg

The Amazing Beaumanz 04-30-03 09:30 PM

jim,

what are the feet on your table?? and where can i find them?? I've searched everywhere for a good set.


Thanx
Dallas

The Amazing Beaumanz 05-04-03 01:54 PM

any suggestions from anyone??

Jim 05-04-03 08:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by The Amazing Beaumanz:
<strong>jim,

what are the feet on your table?? and where can i find them?? I've searched everywhere for a good set.

Thanx
Dallas</strong><hr></blockquote>

I used the #41 flange for the bottoms of my legs. I glued rubber to the bottoms of the flanges so they wouldn't slip around.

http://www.hollaender.com/media/catalog/holl41.gif

That image is from this page (also linked in a previous post.):
http://www.hollaender.com/?page=flanges

You should be able to find these fittings at a pipe supply company.

Jim

The Amazing Beaumanz 05-05-03 08:43 AM

Thank you very much jim!!!!

thayr 12-13-05 12:26 PM

:square:

thayr 02-10-06 08:39 PM

Table
 
I'm in the process of making a table. The top is 3/4" plywood. The legs are these: http://www.tablelegsonline.com/talle...s-zoom-34.asp.

The legs attach with a bracket (14 screws per bracket) into a 2x6 which is screwed into each corner of the table, there is a very slight angle which I cut onto each corner board so as the legs come down angled outward. The load rating is somewhere around 400 lbs. 2x6's meet up with the corner boards and continue all around the underside edge of the table.

I'm now in the process of attaching two aluminum bars at the bottoms of each leg, one bar connects two legs, so the two bars make an 'X' underneath the table. I also drilled holes through the bottoms of each leg and will attach wires which will go to the opposite underside of the table, I'll then tighten them to add tension (4 wires in all).

I'll be putting linoleum on the top of the table (which I got from a flooring store, it was in the scraps section so I got it for cheap) , and I'm thinking of putting a strip of velcro along the edge to which I can attach fabric.

So far I've spent around $300. I'll post a photo once I get it finished.

thayr 03-04-06 01:44 PM

Here's the finished table:

The foot of each leg is adjustable.
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table1.jpg
The leg brackets and the piece for a pole to be inserted into (I bought two plumbing brackets and a short piece of steel pipe which I had welded together, the welding was done free of charge from a local welding shop)
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table2.jpg
The hardware that tightens the tension cables, the hardest part of the whole job was getting the plastic coated wire through the wire crimpers (lots of cursing with that)
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table3.jpg
The inner workings of the table. Plastic coated wire with two crimps on each byte, one end to an eyelet other to the tightening hardware. Aluminum cross bars (they're not attached to the table but stick onto a protruding bolt so they don't fall off, when the cables are tightened the bars become tight as well)
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table4.jpg
The table top, vinyl flooring from the scrap section of a carpet/flooring store. The hole for the pole to be inserted.
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table5.jpg
The fabric siding attaches with velcro (I think the velcro thing will be the first to give me trouble after a few months of usage, I guess I'll find out)
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table6.jpg
The underside.
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table7.jpg
The table complete!
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table8.jpg
Table disassembled.
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table9.jpg
Custom made bag from an Amish tack shop ($115 for the table bag and custom bag for Rolla Bollas)
http://www.dragonocarinas.com/thayr/table/table10.jpg

Chance 03-04-06 02:39 PM

Speaking as a professional carpenter, prop builder and cabinet maker, the design is interesting but has some basic design flaws.

I'll get the biggest one out of the way first. The plastic feet. I know they are adjustable, but there are better solutions than plastic. These feet will determine the load limit (what you guess to be 400 pounds), and over time they will be the first thing to break down. A different choice would have given you double that with no weakening over time, and no fear of break down due to vibration/ wear and tear, etc.

The angle of the legs could have been sharper. I would have made the feet fall outside of the tops profile. (i.e., if the feet are 2 inches wide, I would have placed each foot 2 1/2 inches outside the profile.) Jim's table is much closer to this idea.

Plus, by widening the stance you make the table "sit" between the four corners. This makes the table much stronger and reduces vibration during use. In fact, the more weight you add, the more stable it becomes.

The cables and come alongs are totally unecessary. They don't add anything to the design except weight, extra set up and tear down. The cross members should be all you need, and if they're not, if you still get unwanted vibration during use without the cables, that was the time to adjust out the stance as already mentioned.

Look again at Jim's table. It has no cross members or cables, and I'll wager it weighs about half as much as your table does.

I can see where you wanted to go with this. I can count the hours by looking at the photos, and I imagine how the design evolved over time. Don't get discouraged by my comments. It was a good first try. Practice makes perfect.

Chance

thayr 03-04-06 03:06 PM

The plastic feet were the only adjustable legs I could find in the time-frame I had. The only metal version I came across was scaffolding leg adjusters. The angle of the legs wasn't as sharp as I wanted because I was worried about putting stress on the plastic feet.

The cross bars and cables came after I attached the legs and realised the table wasn't at all sturdy. The cables and two aluminum bars don't add too much more weight and they make the table very stable. I did think about just adding cross bars, but I wasn't sure how to go about attaching them securely to the legs and being able to easily remove them (I have to break the table down once every week).

I haven't had a chance to weigh it all yet but it's at least 50+ lbs. I'm hoping it's 70 or under so I won't have as much trouble getting it on a flight with me. This was indeed my first try at building a prop table, I'll see how this one works for me.

Frisbee 03-04-06 03:58 PM

I finished building a nice table recently using a combination of plate aluminum and 3/4" plywood.

I have a 1/4" aluminum plate with flanges welded on at a slight outward angle as chance mentioned as well as i believe Jim pointed out in earlier postings.
I have a 3/4 " board bolted to the plate with 16 screws along the outer edge and one subsink in the middle.
This makes the top board very snug with the plate as well as makes the board easily replaceable when needed, if needed.

the legs and feet are based on the same perfect design as jims.

Overall it is very sturdy for doing a number of different tricks on and it does not look that thick as there is no 2 by 6 framing underneath.
Overall thickness is a mere 1"

Overall weight can not be more than 30ish pounds but I can get exact if anyone would want.

Additionally I have different leg lengths for different desired heights.

Marcus Wilson 03-06-06 02:13 PM

Greg,

Sounds cool would you mind posting a photo of your table. My table is sturdy and works great but weighs way to much.

thayr 03-30-06 02:51 AM

:(

Frisbee 04-18-06 12:46 PM

sorry this took so long
 
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I am sorry it took me so long to take pictures of my table. I have it with the short legs to get everything in shot.

Over all weight with legs is 14 kg... about 30 lbs +/-


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