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gav 05-19-13 06:51 AM

RIP performers.net
 
Looks like this place has finally died.

Lee Nelson 05-19-13 07:05 AM

It is certainly looking that way. I can trace the moment back to when the South Western US performers got involved. They seem to lack a certain understanding of international performance and only seem to speak redneck. Its hard to contribute at the moment.

Peter 05-19-13 07:43 AM

Looks that way to me too. All I've see is some guy bitching because he pissed off some other performers and the shut him up, now he's crying about it. I notified Jim and asked him to ban the silly shmuck but nothing. So it seems you're right, P net has imitated a frog and croaked. Sorry to see it go

Jim 05-20-13 03:52 PM

So... should I just delete everything? Are you guys done here?

Mr.Taxi Trix 05-20-13 04:00 PM

Holding out hope.
 
I believe there is something here of value still. I don't want to cross my arms and dig in my heels and scream "noooooo" or anything, but, "NOOOOO!"

Jim 05-20-13 04:19 PM

Peter, I can't ban someone for being a schmuck. If you don't like what someone is posting, don't read it and don't respond to it. That's the first rule of troll management.

As for the rest of the site, I have no control over the traffic here. I've been hosting the site since 1996 but there was never any business model and never any plan or expectations. I basically rented a warehouse and told the performing community to come hang out and shoot the shit. It was busy for a long time, but now people have other places to go to shoot the shit.

So, yeah. I'm honestly not sure what to do. Not too many performers come by these days... and I'm still paying the rent.

Jim 05-20-13 04:21 PM

(It's not about the money. I was just continuing the metaphor.)

Gregory Rush 05-20-13 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim (Post 60944)
(It's not about the money. I was just continuing the metaphor.)

Keep it up, I personally know many who come here.
They may not post but it is a compilation of information,
culture, people, that would be sad if it did not stay....forever :)

It has been for a long time a great place to just read.
Butterfly man last message to me is priceless , I don't even
want to lose that. If anyone is un happy here they can just leave
and come back later, I always find something new here.

Cmon who we kidding, this place is the only place like it around!
I will for one would like a years notice !!! We keep getting new members
some of them I know in real life and never knew they were here. I found
many long lost friends here, and made new ones that are now lifetime friends.
Everytime I come on therf are people viewing the various topic.

Sure it gets quiet at times, that is cuz people are utilizing the information they got from here!!!! YOu know it Jim!

THnx again and thnx ahead of time.

Gregory Rush 05-20-13 05:45 PM

VIewing
 
1 is viewing who is who.
1 is viewing Specific Pitches.

Look that's tow people lives you are gonna RUIN if you drop the board !!! LOL
Sure we have many places. like I log on FB and everyone one of my reatlives is like, well...its not quiet and no inforatmion.
Do not let anyone kid you on sociability sure we got phones other sites
BUT
For perorming infoamtion, tactics. places. manners etc Ther eis nothing
like it is here straight from performers and if you look at each year as
a whole. It is making itself very very useflauil.

Awesome Board Jim
Keep it up!
PS never let one or tow people bring down a monument to your lifestyle :)

Gregory Rush 05-20-13 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim (Post 60943)
Peter, I can't ban someone for being a schmuck. If you don't like what someone is posting, don't read it and don't respond to it. That's the first rule of troll management.

As for the rest of the site, I have no control over the traffic here. I've been hosting the site since 1996 but there was never any business model and never any plan or expectations. I basically rented a warehouse and told the performing community to come hang out and shoot the shit. It was busy for a long time, but now people have other places to go to shoot the shit.

So, yeah. I'm honestly not sure what to do. Not too many performers come by these days... and I'm still paying the rent.

I think if you ban the schmucks, they can no longer reproduce....
Schmuck or shmuck in American English is a pejorative meaning one who is stupid or foolish; or an obnoxious, contemptible or detestable person. The word entered English from Yiddish, where it has similar pejorative meanings, but its original meaning in Yiddish is penis.[1][2] Because of its vulgarity,[3] the word is euphemized as schmoe, which was the source of Al Capp's cartoon strip creature the shmoo.[4] Variants include schmo and shmo.

In Jewish homes, the word was "regarded as so vulgar as to be taboo."[5] Lenny Bruce, a Jewish standup comedian, wrote that the use of the word during his performances in 1962 led to his arrest on the West Coast "by a Yiddish undercover agent who had been placed in the club several nights running to determine if [his] use of Yiddish terms was a cover for profanity."[6]

Etymology [edit]

The German word Schmuck means "jewelry, adornments";[7] the equivalent in Yiddish is schmock or shmock.[3] In German the pejorative "schmuck" would be Schmock, closer to the original Yiddish word. The transition of the word from meaning "jewel" to meaning "penis" is related to the description of a man's genitals as "the family jewels."[8]

The Online Etymology Dictionary derives it from Eastern Yiddish shmok, literally "penis," from Old Polish smok, "grass snake, dragon,"[9] but Leo Rosten cites Dr. Shlomo Noble of the YIVO Institute for Jewish Research as saying that shmok derives from shmuck and not the other way around.


I mean just look how confusing it would be!!!!!

Gregory Rush 05-20-13 06:10 PM

To anyone who wants board shut down
 
That is very selfish.
Just leave.

Happy trails for everyone else. Can't ride a bike,
walk somewhere else but stop throwing stuff
at people on the trail still.

Thnx

Gregory Rush 05-20-13 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Taxi Trix (Post 60942)
I believe there is something here of value still. I don't want to cross my arms and dig in my heels and scream "noooooo" or anything, but, "NOOOOO!"

I am sure if all the members knew such an absurd post or
suggestion was made the would post overwhelmimgly in support.
Also I for one would pick up any work or tab that needs help,
I am not busy for the next few months..

Peter 05-21-13 07:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim (Post 60943)
Peter, I can't ban someone for being a schmuck. If you don't like what someone is posting, don't read it and don't respond to it. That's the first rule of troll management.

As for the rest of the site, I have no control over the traffic here. I've been hosting the site since 1996 but there was never any business model and never any plan or expectations. I basically rented a warehouse and told the performing community to come hang out and shoot the shit. It was busy for a long time, but now people have other places to go to shoot the shit.

So, yeah. I'm honestly not sure what to do. Not too many performers come by these days... and I'm still paying the rent.

Thanks for responding Jim. I understand. Glad to see it is still here.

Godfrey Daniels 05-21-13 12:55 PM

Long as You're Living...
 
Hey Jim! Just happened to pop in today and see this. Keep the site up please if you can afford to do so!! I find it a unique and essential resource and it would suck if you killed it...

I've been committed to street performance since the '80's - however, many generations of performer have come and gone since then - the rules, economics, styles have changed. I think a lot of new people don't know this site exists. I think the site needs to promote itself. Do you have a Facebook version that can cross-fertilize?

Or, if this site didn't exist - where are the other forums to migrate to?

gav 05-22-13 03:10 AM

Some times declaring something dead can breath new life into it.
Well, maybe just this time.

Let's just try to keep it free of all the troll ping pong that's been going on lately.
We don't need to here 20 times about peoples personal problems and other peoples objections to them.

I actually like(ed) the site, but not much of interest is posted these days, everyone has shifted to social media sites. Except me , I prefer pnet to facebook.

Isabella 05-23-13 05:20 AM

I read about every other day. When there's a discussion I have something to contribute to, I respond :) Yes, it's quieter here than it used to be, but there's so much wonderful information in the archives, I'd hate to see it cease to exist.

I'm going to make a point of mentioning the board to performers I meet all summer.

Mr.Taxi Trix 05-23-13 09:53 AM

I wonder if there is a middle ground, Jim. Is there a way to scale it back a little and archive it onto wordpress or something like that, or am I talking gibberish? The tumbleweeds blowing through here would bother me a lot more if I was the one shelling out the rent.

martin ewen 05-24-13 11:24 PM

I've used the search to go back some ways however there was a version of Pnet [or maybe even 2] prior to this one and a great deal of the 'history' took place on those servers and I unless they were archived are lost.[I'd love access to 'the early years'] So in terms of data history this site has a few years of good material with robust social perculations then it slimmed down bigtime socially.
One business plan might be that those interested give Jim some token to collectively upkeep at least the library. Gigs in and out does serve a purpose I guess. Socially it's survived because of a nucleus of smartasses set a tone. Qualified smartasses, kind but unfair, massively witty motherfuckers.

There used to be an informal quality control aspect wherein even psychiatric visitors were welcomed then used for common entertainment purposes.

The best I could do is visit once a week and abuse some random individual until the place forms a shape again.

Peter 05-25-13 07:32 AM

Martin, that description is SO TRUE and accurate of PNet. We gotta get back there again. Remember Rumplestilskin, whatever happened to him.

Peter

martin ewen 07-23-13 07:18 AM

To be honest after Butterfly died I felt I had no-one left to write for. Sorry if that's disrespectful but he was my secret audience. The alpha writer of 'how it is/was' that I kept in my head while i wrote stuff here in an attempt to have him shake his head and go 'Damn'.

It's coming up to a year now, every time I visited, and i visited as much as I could and was there at the end, I'd ring and say 'I'm coming' and he'd say 'Why?' and I'd say, 'Because I'm your friend Robert.' and I was, I made him laugh every day until 3 days before the end. I may have been his friend but I never told him the real answer to his question which was. "Because you're saving my life Robert."

It might have been two days, I'll never know if he got the last joke,it was bumbling and instinctive and a mistake, like all my best work. It was the last day he could walk and I helped him into the bathroom, he didn't need to go but when every time you walk could be the last time you walk I guess it doesn't matter where you're headed.

He sat on the closed toilet seat and held his head in his hands and just quietly said "Help me...please help me."
I crouched down to comfort him and my knee ended up on his right foot.
He made a small noise, an exasperated grunt of pain.
I said, "You're welcome Robert" and got him up and back to a bed he only ever stood up against once more.

badoom kish.


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