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Old 07-16-04, 12:28 PM   #1
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I was wondering what kind of torches people use. I am looking at getting some for street performing. I'm thinking of getting Dube Classic torches or Infinite Illusion ones, both of which can be viewed at www.seriousjuggling.com. If anyone has any feedback on these particular torches or advice on something better, it would be appreciated.

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Old 07-16-04, 02:01 PM   #2
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The infinite illusion are built a little more durable than the Dube torches. The metal goes through almost to the end of the handle. i have went through about 5 sets of dube torches because the snap at the neck.

just my opinion though.
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Old 07-16-04, 02:28 PM   #3
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Right now I personally use Todd Smith www.toddsmith.com and they have been good to me.

However, it has recently dawned on my that any prop not made by Renegade (www.renegadejuggling.com) is not worth owning.

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Old 07-16-04, 06:54 PM   #4
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Henry's torches are my current fav. They might not be the toughest, or the heaviest, but they flip great. They flip just like Henry's clubs. The handle goes around the wick, so it's easier to catch ( Dube's pivot near the center). I do a lot of triple singles and high throws and sometimes you loose track of which end is which.
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Old 07-17-04, 01:56 AM   #5
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this was EXTENSIVELY discussed here a few years ago.

To answer your question, everyone has different preferences.

From my experience:

dube classic-- best for swinging, not juggling. Nice weight but wood handles are not much fun to catch if your doing triples / quads (etc) or passing.

dube deluxe- HEAVY

infinite illusions- nice weight / feel, but a bit flimsy

henry's- EXCELLENT torch. A+

Renegade- The torches I use. Most people either love 'em or hate 'em

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renegade props not worth owning:

diabolos
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Old 07-18-04, 10:56 PM   #6
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I just looked at the serious juggling site and saw the mister babache torches. Has anyone used them? What did you think of them. They are cheaper, so I may get them.

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Old 07-19-04, 01:03 AM   #7
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Ok, this is my last reply on this before I just cut you loose, Tyler, to do what ever the hell you want.

If you are a hobbyist, than buy your props based on price. However, this is PERFORMERS.net, so I assume you have some lofty goals of making a living by getting up in front of people shouting "LOOK AT ME" and then dazzling them. If that's the case then you really shouldn't buy something because it is cheap. Cheap props are generally crap. There it is. You get what you pay for. (Of course, in the long run, cheap props are really expensive because you have to replace them, and thus spend double the money.)

The Babache torches are crap. The handle is flimsy and the center weight overly heavy. But think about it:
they are imported from switzerland and after tarifs & shipping they are still cheaper than the domestic products. That's because they are crap!

There it is, my 2 cents. Buy whatever you want.


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p.s. correction: cheap JUGGLING props are generally crap. MAGIC & ILLUSION props, are a different story.
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Old 08-29-04, 08:39 AM   #8
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I would say that magic and illusions that are cheap is übercrap. Always buy better (more expensive mostly) props - you will give the prop the time it takes to control and master it because you payed half a fortune for it, it usually takes some damage without breaking and the cheap stuff - as previous writers have told you - suck.

I myself use dubé torches and will never again buy them. They are heavy and spin like crap (even though the cost you the fortune I told you about). Though I like the dubé knives and would never change into anything else because of the weight and the looks.

So, if you are gooing to buy a set of torches; this is my recomendation:

Go to a juggling store and try all the torches thay have. Try to find a set that have the same feel as the clubs you are using. If they havn´t got any, go to another store. Buy the ones you like - no mather what they cost.

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Old 08-30-04, 11:51 AM   #9
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Good advice, except that there are no juggling stores near me. The local magic store has a set of torches I've never heard of, and the next closest one is in another city, I have been there but I don't think they had torches. That's why I seek advice.
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Old 08-30-04, 11:59 AM   #10
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go to a juggling festival, they always have the best deals anyway.
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Old 08-30-04, 02:45 PM   #11
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Actually, as I was preparing to get some, my mom said I wasn't allowed. Ah well, maybe I'll order some and send a friend's address as mine so I get them there. Muhahahaha!
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Hmm, I don´t wanna be an arse but, your mother said what? Why should you care?

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She said I can't juggle fire. She thinks it's dangerous. I evem showed her Jason Garfield's rant...

Oh, I'm 15 so I have very little input.
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You go to your room young man and if you think that for one INSTANT I'm going to let you throw flaming sticks around in the hope that one day you'll make a living from it, well your too young to really understand but I can tell you that it just breaks THIS mothers heart.
Do you have ANY idea how much I already have to worry about, You could be sodimised, drafted, get aids, join a cult, just fall off your damn pushbike and remain in an unaffordable coma till we have nothing left to sell. You already talk to complete strangers on the world wide web who put God knows WHAT ideas into your head and then you give me that look like I have no idea whats what and your so confident with your 15 years of wisdom and world weary experience and that look says 'mum, what bubble have you been living in that makes you think fire might melt my face on a bad day?"
WELL I've got news for you young man. remember your cousin Clinton Beaumont, the one we hardly ever see because he lives in Florida in the swamp in a hollow tree. Well I've talked to his parol officer and we think it would be a good idea, since you have no intention of furthering yourself at school, that you go down there and help him stuff Flamingos for the tourists until this whole, 'Juggling' thing passes and you move on to satan worship or boy bands or something normal.
Very little input indeed, typical male.
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That totally made my day!
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She said I can't juggle fire. She thinks it's dangerous. I evem showed her Jason Garfield's rant...
game over man...game over.

How about knifes?

or....chainsaws?

hmmmmm?
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Old 08-31-04, 12:47 PM   #17
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Yeah, she said knives are ok, but they are so expensive. Chainsaws, also too expensive.
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Old 09-02-04, 06:34 AM   #18
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I must say that knives aren´t that much more expensive compared to torches. A good torch costs the same as a good knife. Go for the dubé knives (heavy and slow spin, but beutiful and fearsome) I think that absolute circus has made som copys with a not so beautiful blade, but they have the same spin.

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Old 09-02-04, 01:35 PM   #19
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uh, a good set of 3 knives cost $45 more, arn't nearly as durable, will destroy yer wrists if you work on tricks too much, and will hurt you more if you hit yourself with them.
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Dube Knives look like props.
if cash is a problem go buy some actual machetes and tape up the handles.
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